www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/09/18/new-view-cohost-sherri_n_64864.html
The world is round. Sort of one of those…fact things. You know, like 1+1=2, B comes after A in our alphabet, grass is usually green, etc. Sort of indisputable.
Or so I thought until I saw a video of The View from last Thursday.
On September 18, during their usual banter and debate, Whoopi Goldberg put newby Sherri Shepard on the spot by asking her if the world was flat. The following dialogue ensued:
SHERRI SHEPHERD: Is the world flat? (laughter)
GOLDBERG: Yes.
SHEPHERD: …I don’t know.
GOLDBERG: What do you think?
SHEPHERD: I… I never thought about it, Whoopi. Is the world flat? I never thought about it.
BARBARA WALTERS: You’ve never thought about whether the world was round or flat?
SHEPHERD: I tell you what I’ve thought about. How I’m going to feed my child-
WALTERS: Well you can do both.
SHEPERD: …how I’m going to take care of my family. The world, is the world flat has never entered into, like that has not been an important thing to me.
ELIZABETH HASSELBECK: You’ll teach your son, Jeffery, right? SHEPHERD: If my son, Jeffery, asks me ‘is the world flat,’ I guess I would go…
JOY BEHAR: You know, didn’t some person already work this question out? I mean, why are we doing this again? (laughter, applause)
I’m with Joy on this one. When first watching the youtube video, I thought, well now that’s a silly thing to ask. And pretty patronizing on Whoopi’s part to demand such a rhetorical question of someone on live television. But wait. She said “I don’t know????
Seriously?
The debate began because Shepard had stated some points of view that revealed her literal belief in the Bible and Whoopi was trying to make the point that if she believed that the world was round (as I think Whoopi assumed she would) than she accepted pieces of modern science that had not been available at the time of the Bible and therefore encourage a more symbolic reading.
That seems to have backfired.
It would be nice to think that Shepard’s ambiguity was in fact a consequence of having a very (unbelievably, incredibly?) busy life, focusing on day to day necessities rather than science and somewhat abstractions outside the practical realm. That might have helped understand it a little—if she was a single mother scraping by on food stamps instead of earning many-a-grand-per-episode on the View.
But then someone nearby who had overheard the video said, “oh man, I can’t believe that. I can’t believe those ‘Flat Earth Society people actually exist.’” And though I don’t think the View moderator holds a membership, after research, I discovered that there is in fact a legitimate group that believes that the world is flat and that the rest of us “non-flat earthers” are simply followers of a giant conspiracy started by Christopher Columbus, who they refer to as Grigori Efimovich. These people truly believe that the world is flat, that it is a non moving rock, and that it is the center of the universe. The scientific advances of the last 300 years have simply moved us deeper into a modern “dark age” that can only be fixed through “whatever means are deemed necessary” as the society continues to rely “heavily on a callous disregard for the lives and well-being of our members, to slowly but steadily been spread the news.” www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm
Here is their introduction on the website:
For centuries, mankind knew all there was to know about the shape of the Earth. It was a flat planet, shaped roughly like a circle, with lots of pointy things hanging down from the underside. On the comparatively smooth topside, Europe sat in the middle of the circle, with the other continents scattered about the fringes, and parts of Africa hanging over the edge. The oceans lapped against the sides of the Earth, and in places ran over, creating currents that would pull over the edge ships that ventured too far out to sea. The space beyond the edge of the world was a dark realm inhabited by all sorts of unholy beasts. Fire and brimstone billowed up from the very depths of hell itself and curled ’round the cliffs whose infinite length jutted straight down to the darkest depths . . . .
It truly seems like a joke. I especially like how “parts of Africa” get to hang over the edge of this world, it is no wonder Africa is in the state it is today, what with being so close to the “unholy beasts” and “fire and brimstone” of hell.
Apparently, Christopher Columbus was just a huge con artist:
Using an elaborate setup involving hundreds of mirrors and a few burlap sacks, he [C.C]was able to create an illusion so convincing that it was actually believed he had sailed around the entire planet and landed in the West Indies. As we now know, he did not.
Right. There must have been some amazing things in those burlap sacks to convince Galileo, Copernicus, Newton, and every other scientist for the rest of time into believing that the world was round, and no, I did not “sound bite” their mission statement, it really just ends with “as we know, he did not,” without giving any evidence to support the claim that Christopher Columbus made up his trip to the West Indies—nothing strong enough to counter the fact that the United States actually exists and is inhabited by descendants of Europeans.
But that is a small point, maybe they just tapped their heels together from the “middle of the circle” that is Earth and scattered to the fringes at their whim…
The society gives reasons for their belief, all of which basically revolve around the fact that they don’t “believe” in the power of gravity—and if you discount THAT concept, really, it would be tough to conceptualize a round earth. They mention that if the earth was not flat, it would simply look like the moon because the ocean and air move too much to connect to a gravitational field (if it existed) and would simply “fall off” the sides of the world.
And the only place that objects would NOT fall off the curved surface would be at the very top near the north pole—not the south pole though, because those poor folks would just fall right into the space below.
The Society seems to misunderstand gravity as a force that pulls you down, whichever way down seems to be to the human eye, instead of a force that pulls you towards the larger body of mass. Even I know that and I haven’t taken a science class in 8 years.
This website would seem silly if I had not seen the clip from the View. Although they do not mention God or religion overtly, the reference to the “depths of hell” in their mission statement does seem to connect it to some sort of fundamentalism. I am not sure though.
Their current membership is over 4,000 and that is just overt believers—not the “I don’t knows” that may exist like Sherri Shepard. The site mentions that they have members who have been teaching science in elementary and middle schools in an effort to get this message across at the most crucial age; they travel to prison’s to teach, and are working on a way to infiltrate the minds of “round-earthers” directly through an neurotransmitter implant.
Sort of funny, sort of terrifying.
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