andrea’s whereIstand Blog

Ok, I messed up the link thing. I responded to Gab and Andy but I did it wrong. Here is my post in response to Gab and Andy.



One more thing. Andy, you wanted to be stopped, didn’t you?

Andy did a good job with his first post, you touched everybody’s deepest feelings. Everyone has different views of what life should be lived, and I’m not imposing anything to anyone as 665Gab# claims I do. It’s not black or white, we all agree with that, but let me tell you, everytime a person comes to me crying that he is going to take his life I am going to strive to convience him not to. As I told you I love life, and as you I’m not bringing my own experiences into account but I’ve a hard life and I always wanted to see what was next, I wanted to go further, to live more. I agree that I have my own way to see life and that I can’t make you feel how I feel but let me try. I don’t know any of you guys, I don’t know 671Andy# (nice to meet you, too) to say say he is selfish and weak, I said "I find what Andy says weak and selfish". I have been very very close to suicidal experiences and thats why I have depeloped such a strong feeling that comitting suicide as Andy put it is weak. Let us not talk about any other cultures, please, we live here and now and I’m very aware of what indians did when they were colonized (I’m from South America), but please let’s focus in nowdays. Andy wrote "I know it (suicide) won’t be while I’m young: this is reserved for the time when I decide I’ve lived enough" and then he writes as though he had a terminal illness and no longer talking about suicide with clear head but about euthanasia. As I said in one post there is a thin line between those two and Andy is not clear wether he wants to kill himself being healthy and clear headed or only when he is in a terminal state.



I don’t consider mourning selfish (concerned chiefly or only with yourself, without regard of the well-being of others). You go to the cemetery, cry for your love-ones and leave.  It’s very intimate and personal but not slefish. You are not hurting anyone. Whereas killing yourself  you are.



I love how Gab writes, is very passionate. I responded YES to the question "Should a person have the right to dead?" and I explained why in my post. It’s not an inconsistency. You think there is no line between suicide and euthanasia, and I certantly do.



You guys are only talking about adults comitting suicide, but what happens with kids. The amount of kids killing themselves and mentaly disoriented have risen enormously. Children don’t have the same capacity of analize things, as some adults, have. It has been proven that a human been developes its capacity of thought throughout several years, letting little kids without a profound understanding of their situation. Wether they have a terminal illness or they are depressed do you think the same way? Do they have the right to death?

I find what  Andy says weak and selfish. Every time the human being is avoiding death, by running to the sidewalks when a car is coming to close and always, maybe unconsciously,  you are surviving. But, why is it that you don’t kill yourself right now when you are still young and healthy? Perhaps now you feel very happy (working with Nick, right?), but what is the part of growing old that frightens you so bad? Don’t you want to see the world from diferent perspectives? Don’t you want to look back and realize that you learnt and enjoyed life so much and that you would have regreted having killed yourself? As soon as you see any difficulty are you going to jump down the Empire State? Don’t you think Ruth would have lived happily and would have made this little guy happy too if she had not killed herself? I think that by saying what you said, you are trying to call people’s attention and do something important with your life. I would never kill myself, I enjoy life as it is and I woudn’t deprive myself of one single minute while I can still have it.  

To respond  to what  Gab says I have so many thoughts. Imagine someone who was run over by a car, left with no conscience and with two options either be disconected or survive and spend the rest of his life in a wheel chair. Who can decide? It was an accident and the patient did not have the chance to express his willing as to wether be rescued by all means or let die even with the hope of living but in certain conditions such as paralisis or any manifestation of impediment. Now, you are talking about human nature and humanity and one of the premises of being a human being is the instinct of surviving without having time to rational thoughts. If you are the person in the accident and as you are lying on the hospital bed your reliatives are taking the decision of disconect the cable the feeds you because if you are kept alive you might be left with "scars", I trust you that you won’t support them if the disconect you. If you are to die and  it is proven, as with some people with terminal cancer, I agree they have the right to end their lives as painless as it is possible. But when do you draw the line between euthanasia and suicide?

Are you asking about euthanasia or suicide?

I think  a person has the right to make a decision to end a life on his or someone’s behalf if it is clinically proven that the person is in terminal state but I think this is a really delicate question. Every person has the right to death, of course, all of us are going to die be it smoking, comitting suicide, driving drunk, having a disease, a stroke, etc. The question for me is, does a person have the right to rush his death when there still are options to enhance his life? NO.